Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Foreign Affairs and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (15:07): We know that Australians are struggling and we know that households are struggling, which is why we're so focused on doing what we are able to do in terms of cost-of-living measures and delivering the first budget surplus in 15 years, to put downward pressure on inflation. What I would say is this: given we know from the ABS and the RBA that the government's approach shaved half a percentage point off the inflation rate in the September quarter, Senator Hughes, if you care about inflation and interest rates, maybe you should make sure that those opposite support the things the government is doing. The PRESIDENT: Senator Hughes, second supplementary?