The ACTING DEPUTY PRESIDENT ( Senator Fawcett ) (17:19): A letter has been received from Senator Hanson: Pursuant to standing order 75, I propose that the following matter of public importance be submitted to the Senate for discussion: With the overwhelming vote against the voice to Parliament, Australians have stated they don't want division; welcome to country ceremonies and acknowledgements of country are divisive, denying the citizenship and sovereignty held by all Australians regardless of race, and should be abandoned in Australian parliaments, council chambers and from any official government proceedings. Is the proposal supported? It is supported. Senator McKim? Senator McKim: I have points of order on two issues, Mr Acting Deputy President. Firstly, I saw only four people rise to their feet, not five, so I seek your advice on that. Secondly, I ask for clarification, given that Senator Hanson has had the call withdrawn from her, as to whether she is still able to be counted as one of the people supporting this motion. The ACTING DEPUTY PRESIDENT ( Senator Fawcett ): My understanding is that, as the signer of the letter, she is not counted. And there were five people standing. Senator McKim: On a further point of order, then: in that case there were certainly not five people standing, because she was one of the people standing. The ACTING DEPUTY PRESIDENT: Senator McKim, there were people standing at this end of the chamber. Senator McKim: No, they weren't. The ACTING DEPUTY PRESIDENT: Senator McKim, I'm in the chair, and my role is to look and see people who were standing—making eye contact, making it clear—and my judgement was that there were the correct number of people standing for the motion to be supported. I will take the advice of the clerk as to whether the prohibition on Senator Hanson having the call to speak impacts her ability to lodge an MPI, but then, assuming it goes ahead, I will give the call to Senator Roberts. I'll take that advice now. Senator Roberts, you have the call.