Senator FARRELL (South Australia—Minister for Trade and Tourism, Special Minister of State and Deputy Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:55): I thank Senator Fawcett for his second supplementary question. We're finally back on track here; all of the chopping and changing in the defence space under your government is behind us now. That's— The PRESIDENT: Senator Fawcett? Senator Fawcett: I have a point of order, on relevance. The question was about the fact that the government won't even define 'track', not whether or not they think they're back on track. He's not being relevant to the question that was asked. The PRESIDENT: I will remind the minister of the question, thank you, Senator Fawcett. Minister Farrell. Senator FARRELL: Thank you, President. I don't think could be more relevant in pointing out the failure, after failure, after failure of the former government! Let's remember— The PRESIDENT: Minister Farrell, I draw your attention to Senator Fawcett's question. Senator Fawcett, did you still want to make a point of order? Senator Fawcett: Yes, a point of order: the minister is misleading the house. The PRESIDENT: That's not a point of order, Senator Fawcett, and you're well aware of that! Minister Farrell. Senator FARRELL: If that's the best he can do! Look, with defence Minister Marles we have a person who we know we can trust. He's a safe pair of hands in this place, and Australians know that this is a government that is serious about ensuring their long-term defence needs.