Senator AYRES (New South Wales—Assistant Minister for Trade and Assistant Minister for Manufacturing) (17:17): Of course child sexual assault is abhorrent, and everybody in this place would condemn it. I notice that the relevant organisation in this space in Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander communities, SNAICC, has said another royal commission, another inquiry, is not a solution. Like many of the interventions by those opposite, this is all about the politics and not about the solution. It's always about the politics, never about the solution. What is the content of this motion and the letter really about? It's really about an angry pursuit of the people who those opposite don't like and who didn't agree with them in the recent referendum. Let me make the government's position on this referendum really clear. We accept the result of the referendum unequivocally—without equivocation. The Prime Minister made that very clear on Saturday evening. I understand that there are those opposite who are not interested in solutions but interested in the politics. They are interested in looking for an argument, not in looking for solutions. What we as a government will do is listen. We will listen carefully. We will, as I said, having accepted what happened over the course of the weekend, listen carefully and continue to proceed in a careful and deliberate way. We will listen carefully to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander communities. There is a difference, of course, between the approaches. The Prime Minister of Australia said many, many times in the lead-up to the last election that we would hold a referendum on the request that was made to us in the Uluru statement. And do you know what the Prime Minister did? He held the referendum. Senator Cox: Everyone sat here and listened to Jacinta! How about some respect! The ACTING DEPUTY PRESIDENT ( Se nator McGrath ): Order at that end of the chamber! Senator Cox! Senator AYRES: We advocated for the argument that we believed in the referendum and we did not prevail— The ACTING DEPUTY PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Hughes? Senator Hughes: On a point of order, this is just not relevant. This has absolutely nothing to do with the question. The point of order is on the direct relevance of this contribution, which has nothing to do with the royal commission. The ACTING DEPUTY PRESIDENT: It is a wide-ranging debate, and interjections are disorderly. Senator Ayres, if you could wander back— Senator AYRES: I am, of course, responding to the contribution before me, which dealt in substance with these issues. Of course, that's what the Prime Minister did. He did what he said he was going to do, and he advocated for what he believed in. What have we seen from the Leader of the Opposition? In the lead-up to the end of the referendum campaign, he said he wanted a second referendum. And then, in record-breaking time, he flipped over and said we won't have a referendum. Opposition senators interjecting— The ACTING DEPUTY PRESIDENT: Order! Senator AYRES: Then, less than 24 hours later, he said we will have one. He changed his mind more quickly and more often than Kamahl. At least Kamahl is popular! What this Leader of the Opposition— The ACTING DEPUTY PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Hughes? Senator Hughes: I raise a point of order on relevance. This has nothing to do with the royal commission—it's a wide berth. It's in a different state let alone suburb. Senator Green: Read the motion! Senator Hughes: Do you know what? We have read the motion. The ACTING DEPUTY PRESIDENT: Order! Interjections— Senator Hughes: It's child sexual abuse, and you are turning it down. You are turning a blind eye to child sexual assault. You should be ashamed of yourself. The ACTING DEPUTY PRESIDENT: Senator Hughes, please! All interjections are disorderly. I would remind the chamber of that and that speakers should be heard in respectful silence. Senator AYRES: We have the Leader of the Opposition—the angriest man in Australian politics and the most extreme leader of the Liberal and National parties in our history, always looking for an argument, never interested in solutions—all of a sudden saying he's interested in a common approach. You'd have to be forgiven for being cynical about what that is all about. Of course, all of the claims will be made and all of the politics played, but what this government will do is continue to listen. (Time expired)