Senator GALLAGHER (Australian Capital Territory—Minister for the Public Service, Minister for Finance, Minister for Women, Manager of Government Business in the Senate and Vice-President of the Executive Council) (14:14): Thanks for the question, Senator McKenzie. I don't agree with the proposition—how she's framed that question—so I don't accept that. The government has been very clear that the decision on Qatar was made in the national interest. It was made by the transport minister following the same process that Mr McCormack made when he made a decision to put on hold an application by Qatar Airways when he was minister, so it has been very clear in all of the responses provided by the government that this decision was made in the national interest. That is the decision that Minister King made. She has been clear about that. We would also say that Qatar Airways are able to increase capacity if they wanted to right now. If they chose to put on more seats to Australia, they would be able to do that now. They are able to fly into Adelaide, Avalon, Cairns, Canberra and the Gold Coast. The PRESIDENT: Senator McKenzie, on a point of order? Senator McKenzie: On relevance, in rejecting the premise of my question, was the finance minister suggesting that greater competition doesn't put downward pressure on airfares? The PRESIDENT: That is a debating point, Senator McKenzie. Minister, please continue. Senator GALLAGHER: They can also fly larger planes into Sydney, Melbourne, Perth and Brisbane, but they are not currently doing so at the moment. Other airlines are also adding capacity. Cathay Pacific, Singapore Airlines and China Southern Airlines have all announced more flights. Airlines will continue to act in their commercial interests, but requests for additional capacity are determined by the minister for transport according to the national interest. Do you remember a concept like that—acting in the national interest as opposed to your political interest, which is your go-to method of operating? The PRESIDENT: Senator McKenzie, a first supplementary?