Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Foreign Affairs and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:18): I'd refer to Mr Leeser's comments in a speech he gave, because there are people on your side who support this. He made the point— Senator Cash interjecting— Senator WONG: I know that you don't like that there are those on your side who might actually have better principles than Mr Dutton. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Minister Wong, please resume your seat. Order across the chamber! Senator McKenzie interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator McKenzie. Minister, please continue. Senator WONG: Mr Leeser went through the principles associated with the Voice in detail. He made this point: The Voice will be a body of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Australians that will provide advice to the government. It works like a committee. Senator Cash interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Once again, Senator Cash, order! Senator Pratt interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Pratt! Senator WONG: As Mr Leeser said: The Voice is about advice so that governments can make better decisions—better decisions that come from listening to people. It is amazing, isn't it, that Mr Dutton seemed to think that saying 'sorry' was the end of the world. Listening to Senator Cash, you'd think that listening is the end of democracy. We think listening to First Nations people in order to get better outcomes isn't a bad way— (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Cash, your second supplementary?