Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Foreign Affairs and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (15:01): Let's talk about the default market offer. The Australia Energy Regulator published the draft DMO for 2023-24. What that showed—and this is what's happening to energy prices—is the DMO will rise up to 22 per cent for households and up to 25.4 per cent for businesses. That is a substantial increase. But what it also showed is without the coal and gas price caps, that you voted against, the price increase would have been 51 per cent and 53 per cent—51 per cent and 53 per cent! Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Wong, please resume your seat. Senator Cash interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Cash, it is not appropriate to interject in such a loud voice as to try and outcompete the minister. She's been asked a question, she's entitled to answer it and she's entitled to senators listening respectfully and silently. Minister, please continue. Senator WONG: I'll just repeat that: that without the coal and gas price caps, that those opposite voted against, the price increases that Australians, households and businesses, would have faced would have been 51 per cent and 53 per cent respectively. So, if anybody wants to come in here and suggest we're out of touch, I suggest those opposite should look in a mirror. I ask the President that further questions be placed on the Notice Paper.