Senator GALLAGHER (Australian Capital Territory—Minister for the Public Service, Minister for Finance, Minister for Women, Manager of Government Business in the Senate and Vice-President of the Executive Council) (14:07): Yes, I can. I thank Senator Grogan for the question. The cheaper childcare plan will cut the cost of early childhood education and care for more than one million Australian families—1.26 million Australian families. It's a plan, of course, that we know the 'no-alition' over there, the opposition, opposed during the election. They say no to everything. That's what they're known for—the 'no-alition' over there. They said no to energy bill price relief. They couldn't agree with that. Opposition senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Settle down. Senator GALLAGHER: They couldn't agree with $1½ billion going to ease the price of energy, could they? No. More jobs for Australians? No. More investment in manufacturing? No. Child care? No. It's just a big no from you guys. We're getting on with the job and investing in child care. For families earning $120,000 it will mean a saving of $1,700— (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Grogan, a second supplementary?