Senator GALLAGHER (Australian Capital Territory—Minister for the Public Service, Minister for Finance, Minister for Women, Manager of Government Business in the Senate and Vice-President of the Executive Council) (14:53): I haven't seen Senator Antic's research either, and I'm not sure of your background in epidemiology and assessing what the health trends are during a global pandemic, but I can be corrected if you have some background in that. In relation to whether we think the vaccines are safe: yes. The TGA has gone through its processes. As you know, Senator Babet, they also report on adverse events. Myocarditis or pericarditis in younger people was one of the identified risks of those vaccines. Everybody was informed of that and it was seen as a risk. Where it affected people—particularly younger men, as I understand it—those adverse events were recorded. I should also say, the vaccines have saved thousands and thousands of lives, particularly the most vulnerable Australians, and the vaccine program was always about responding to that— (Time expired)