Senator WONG (South Australia—Minister for Foreign Affairs and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:38): Senator Shoebridge, I think I'm on the record, for many years, in accepting that there— An honourable senator interjecting— Senator WONG: Actually, since I was climate minister in 2007 and in the 2007 campaign, where we campaigned for an emissions trading scheme, which you also supported at the time. I've been on the record for many years—well over a decade, which shows you I've been here a fair while—in accepting the scientific advice about the consequences of climate change. I recall reading a CSIRO report, many years ago, in the last decade, which forecast that unmitigated climate change would see the Goyder Line move south of Clare. For those of us who come from South Australia and understand what that means, that was horrifying. That is what has informed in part my commitment and our government's commitment—certainly in government last time—to implement an ambitious emissions trading scheme. I realise you weren't there, but your party voted with the coalition against it. That's why in government we delivered a climate scheme when the Greens did decide to vote for it. It was perhaps not quite as important, but it was ambitious nevertheless. And that is why for nine years we in opposition have argued each election, notwithstanding the challenge of that, for a clear, credible, ambitious position on climate. I am very pleased that after years of irrationality the Australian community has returned not only a government— The PRESIDENT: Senator Shoebridge, I have already drawn to your attention you do not start saying 'point of order' the minute you stand. You wait, I give you the call and then you tell me what the issue is. Senator Shoebridge: It's relevance. We're a minute and a half into the answer on floods and the terrible floods that are happening now, and the minister has not once addressed them. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Minister, I remind you the question was about the floods. Senator WONG: Yes, and as I said at the outset—I'm sorry if the senator needs me to repeat it—I'm on the record for over a decade— Senator Whish-Wilson interjecting— Senator WONG: Would you like to speak, Senator Whish-Wilson? I notice you always want to interject. You go right ahead, mate. Senator Whish-Wilson: I did get an invitation. The PRESIDENT: Senator Whish-Wilson, do you have a point of order? Senator Whish-Wilson: No. Senator WONG: He's always so keen to interject, particularly on some things. We'll give you leave, mate, if that's what you want. Senator Shoebridge, I was genuinely trying to answer your question. I have always accepted the scientific advice about the consequences of climate change. I also recognise—and this is where our parties do differ—that you need to have policies to meet a target and recognise that ensuring that you meet a target of reductions in emissions is a tough policy. (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Shoebridge, first supplementary.