Senator WATT (Queensland—Minister for Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry and Minister for Emergency Management) (14:39): I've seen no evidence whatsoever that this government intends to change NAIF's investment mandate or rules in the way Senator McDonald is talking about. As the minister representing the northern Australia minister, I have seen no evidence to speak of— Senator Green interjecting— Senator WATT: Thank you, Senator Green, for reminding me: the only government that we have seen interfere with the NAIF's investment decisions about investing in resources and energy projects is the former government, which killed off a wind farm outside Cairns—the Kaban project—that would have delivered about 250 jobs to Cairns. The PRESIDENT: Senator McDonald, a point of order? Senator McDonald: I specifically asked about the changes under— Senator Green interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Green, I would ask you—if that was you—to desist. Senator McDonald: I specifically asked about the projects within the NAIF pipeline to be refused funding as a result of changes under this legislation—specifically. The PRESIDENT: Thank you, Senator McDonald, and I do believe the minister is being relevant. Senator WATT: Again, the climate change bill is about bringing in an interim target to reduce our emissions. There is nothing in the bill, that I'm aware of, that would have the effect Senator McDonald is talking about. I would certainly hope she and her colleagues are not intending to continue the same scare tactics we saw for 10 years that held back investment, drove up our emissions and cost jobs.