Senator GROGAN (South Australia) (14:14): Can the minister outline what the impact is of hiding this information on the state of the energy market from Australians? The PRESIDENT: Senator Ruston. Senator Ruston: On a point of order, standing order 193(3). The questioner and several ministers on the other side have continuously referred to an action by the previous minister and suggested that he tried to hide, and a number of other assertions along that. That is an adverse reflection on somebody in the other place, and suggesting that he did; the minister did not do that. The matter that— The PRESIDENT: Senator Ruston, it's not a reflection on the minister. Please resume your seat. It's not a point of order. I've asked— Senator Ruston interjecting— The PRESIDENT: No, because you are debating the point. It is not a point of order. Please resume your seat. Do you have a point of order, Senator Scarr? Senator Scarr: Yes— The PRESIDENT: If it's on the same matter I have ruled on it, so I'm not going to— Senator Scarr: It's a different matter, and that is imputation of an improper motive— The PRESIDENT: No, I'm sorry— Senator Scarr: which is different from a personal reflection. The PRESIDENT: it was not an imputation. I don't accept the point of order. Minister, please continue. Senator Wong: On the point of order, if I may, President? I think the word was 'hiding' not 'lied'. The PRESIDENT: Senator Cash? Senator Cash: After listening carefully to the various comments that have been made, I would request that, given there does seem to be some confusion, you do review the Hansard, what was said, and then come back to the chamber tomorrow with a ruling. The PRESIDENT: Thank you. Senator Cash, I did hear the words that Senator Ruston referred to, which was 'hiding'. I took advice from the Clerk, but if it satisfies the Senate I am more than happy to review the Hansard. Thank you, Senator Ruston. I'm not entertaining any further points of order on this matter, so if it's a new point of order, I'm happy to hear it. Senator Ruston: A point of order in relation to the request that's before you, at the moment, in terms reviewing the particular information. I would seek for you to also review comments that have been made by others, including Senator Gallagher and Senator Watt, on the same matter. The PRESIDENT: Senator Ruston, you are well aware that you can't take a retrospective point of order. I have agreed to review the Hansard and come back to the Senate. Minister Wong? Senator Wong: On the point of order and ask them to withdraw— The PRESIDENT: Order, Senator Wong. Please continue with the question, the second supplementary, asked by Senator Grogan.