Senator LAMBIE (Tasmania) (14:45): There are more than 4,000 people on the social housing waitlist in Tasmania right now. It takes nearly 18 months, on a good day, for the neediest applicants to get put into a home. My staff are taking calls from people who are at their wit's end and we have to tell them that there's nothing we can do; the housing just isn't there. Minister, your government holds the purse strings; we've seen this through COVID. This is happening on your watch and you have the power to turn this around. Why aren't you paying for the social housing we know that we need? Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Are you rising on a point of order, Senator Hanson-Young? Senator Hanson-Young: Yes, I am, Mr President. I don't think it's appropriate, given what has been handed down today, to have growling and dog noises coming from this side of the chamber while a female member in this place is on her feet. It happened. I don't know who was responsible for it, but it is inappropriate and if we're going to change culture from the top then that means all of us. The PRESIDENT: Senator Hanson-Young, I certainly—Senator Wong? Senator Wong: Well, I did hear it, because I in fact said, 'Who's growling?' I would ask one of the senators at that end perhaps to do the right thing and withdraw. At least fess up! An honourable senator interjecting— Senator Wong: Gee, you're tough aren't you? You're happy to dish it out but you're not happy to take responsibility! I mean, really— The PRESIDENT: Senator Wong— Senator Wong: Growling, Mr President! The PRESIDENT: Senator Wong, I certainly did not hear anything— Senat or Wong: I did. The PRESIDENT: Senator Wong, I'm not challenging what you heard. I certainly did not hear it. I cannot ask someone to withdraw something I did not hear. H onourable senator s interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Interjections— Senator Molan interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Molan! Senator Wong interjecting — The PRESIDENT: Senator Molan and Senator Wong! Interjections, as everyone in this chamber has heard on many, many occasions, are disorderly. I did call a senator who interjected across the chamber on my right to order. I did not hear the particular incident that you have raised. If it occurred, I would ask the senator involved to reflect upon it and to withdraw if they did do what has been stated. However, I did not hear the particular interjection myself. I think I'm calling the minister.