Senator BIRMINGHAM (South Australia—Minister for Finance, Leader of the Government in the Senate and Vice-President of the Executive Council) (14:09): The Prime Minister has been very clear right throughout the course of the pandemic that we have no appetite for mandatory vaccinations aside from where the health advice makes it very clear that there is a real benefit in doing so. In that regard, where the health advice so led the Prime Minister led and the government led, particularly when it came to aged care and requiring and asking the states to pursue mandatory vaccination around aged-care workers. That is something the Prime Minister took to national cabinet and asked the states and territories to agree with, and they progressively set about implementing that. We've supported them in relation to decisions about disability care workers and in relation to essential health workers, working with those who are most vulnerable and most exposed when it comes to COVID-19. We have been clear that, more broadly, the best way to achieve the high levels of vaccination rates that Australia has achieved—more than 85 per cent double-dose vaccination across the country—is to ensure that Australians understand first and foremost the benefit of being vaccinated, that it provides greater safety to them, to their loved ones and to those around them. Australians have responded most positively and in world-leading terms in regard to receiving vaccines. They have done so overwhelmingly voluntarily. We thank them for that and acknowledge the fact that they have heeded those messages, and we continue through public communications campaigns and other efforts to pursue and to urge Australians who have not yet been vaccinated to add to that 85 per cent double-dose rate to date. The PRESIDENT: Senator O'Neill on a point of order? Senator O'Neill: The point of order is relevance. I thank the senator for his comments. The question was about mandatory— The PRESIDENT: The minister was being directly relevant. Senator O'Neill: The question was about mandatory— The PRESIDENT: I'm happy to hear your point of order. Please go ahead. Senator O'Neill: The point is a point of order on relevance. The minister has been talking about vaccinations and applauding Australians. I'm always going to acknowledge that. But the question was about mandatory, as mandatory as you can possibly make it, and I don't believe, with respect, that the minister has answered that part of the question at all. The PRESIDENT: With respect, I listened carefully to the minister's answer. I believe he was being directly relevant. Senator BIRMINGHAM: As I said right at the outset, the government has always been clear. We have no desire for mandatory vaccinations except where it is absolutely essential in relation to the health advice, but we urge every single Australian to get vaccinated. (Time expired) The PRE SIDENT: Senator O'Neill, a supplementary question?