Senator BIRMINGHAM (South Australia—Minister for Finance, Vice-President of the Executive Council and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:05): [by video link] As I said in response to the primary question, our officials on the ground—DFAT officials working alongside Home Affairs officials who issue and process the visas—are not only doing their utmost to ensure that anybody who has any type of Australian visa is able to board and depart Kabul; they are also responding very clearly to other individuals who have connections to Australia and reasons to want to seek claim, and they are working as quickly as they can to find appropriate humanitarian visas that can be issued in emergency circumstances to be able to expedite those people's departure from Kabul. We've indeed seen 950 people uplifted overnight. The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Keneally, on a point of order? Senator Keneally: My point of order goes to direct relevance. It was a very specific question: have the directions come from DFAT and, if yes, who issued them and why? The PRESIDENT: I'm listening carefully to the minister's answer. You've reminded him of it. I'm reluctant to rule the material he's dealing with is not directly relevant, but I've let you remind him of it and he has 15 seconds remaining to turn to that part of the question. Senator BIRMINGHAM: [by video link] Mr President, I'm not accepting the assertion that there are directions that are turning people away. In fact, I'm making very clear that every effort is being made to accommodate people in their unique circumstances and to try to help them from Kabul as expeditiously as possible. The PRESIDENT: Senator Wong, a final supplementary question?