Senator SESELJA (Australian Capital Territory—Minister for International Development and the Pacific) (14:18): I reject the premise of the question from Senator Hanson-Young. What we have seen under this government is that our policies have seen energy prices coming down. And this is how you get energy prices down in this country: you get investment in new technologies. You get investment in renewables, which we've seen at record levels— The PRESIDENT: Senator Hanson-Young, on a point of order? Senator Hanson-Young: Thank you—relevance. I asked whether the government could confirm how much householders' power bills would cost under this plan. The PRESIDENT: Senator Hanson-Young, your question had a great deal of commentary. It commenced with what I assume was a sarcastic barb. Frankly, if questions are phrased in that way, ministers have a great deal of discretion in how they can answer them. It wasn't as simple as you outlined. Senator Seselja. Senator SESELJA: Thank you, Mr President. Clearly Senator Hanson-Young is in a very bad mood this afternoon. I don't know what's caused that. She's clearly got some of the angry pills today. But what I would say in response to Senator Hanson-Young is that our policies have been bringing energy prices down and we are not going to take advice from the Greens about getting rid of base-load energy and not investing in gas. We will continue to invest in gas because it is a critically important part of our energy mix that will support the economy, and support our efforts to reduce emissions. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: I didn't quite catch everything said there due to interjections, but I will remind senators not to make reflections that are personal or directed at other individual senators when they are addressing the chamber.