Senator McKENZIE (Victoria—Minister for Emergency Management and National Recovery and Resilience, Minister for Regionalisation, Regional Communications and Regional Education and Leader of The Nationals in the Senate) (14:14): I thank the senator for his question. I listened to Barnaby Joyce's interview, as so many Australians did, on RN yesterday, where this question was canvassed, and he was very clear that he does not go to Mr Christensen for advice on how to protect his family and his community around COVID and he does not agree with George Christensen's views on lockdowns, masks and other things. But what he does do is absolutely support Mr Christensen's right, as a citizen of a free country and as a community member, to have an opinion and to express it. We've seen numerous times in this place individuals take to Facebook, take to public platforms, to express views which we don't agree with, whether it's supporting criminals, like those to my right, the Greens— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Wong, on a point of order? Senator Wong: Mr President, direct relevance. Senator Ayres's question was to ask the person who represents Mr Joyce in this chamber what he meant by 'If you start prodding the bear, you're going to make the situation worse for us as a government'. The PRESIDENT: On the point of order, it is quite a broad question, but in my view it does need to be restricted to meanings or potential meanings or imputations of that particular comment, rather than observations on others, to be directly relevant. But it is very broad, I must say, in that sense. I call Senator McKenzie to continue. Senator McKENZIE: Thank you. As I was saying, people in this place on their Facebook pages, on the floor of this chamber and in public— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Wong, on a point of order? I can probably guess it. Senator Wong: Mr President, the minister can't just ignore your ruling. The PRESIDENT: I'm going to ask, Senator McKenzie—I did say that I didn't think observations on others were in order when the question was 'What does the Deputy Prime Minister mean?' That is a broad question, but I do believe that it needs to be limited to meanings, potential meanings or otherwise of that statement, rather than observations upon others. Senator McKenzie. Senator McKENZIE: If I could paraphrase what I think the Deputy Prime Minister was talking about, he was reflecting on Mr Christensen's comments in the chamber and clearly articulating that he didn't support them, that he supported following the medical advice. He himself is also following the health advice right now, as he is in lockdown in Armidale, New South Wales, as a result of a state health order in that state. Barnaby Joyce, the Deputy Prime Minister, has clarified those comments. He doesn't agree with George Christensen, but he agrees with his right to say it. (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Ayres, a supplementary question?