Senator BIRMINGHAM (South Australia—Minister for Finance, Vice-President of the Executive Council and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:16): What the Prime Minister will do and what the government will do is to continue to get on with implementing our policies that are making a difference in terms of reducing Australia's emissions. What the Prime Minister and the government will do—which is what you asked me, Senator Wong—is make sure we continue to pursue the policies that are achieving the downwards trajectory in Australia's emissions and that we invest in the technologies that are necessary—our Technology Investment Roadmap with its stretch targets to make clean hydrogen affordable, not just for Australia but around the world— Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order, Senators Watt and Rennick! Senator BIRMINGHAM: to make energy storage affordable, not just in Australia but around the world; to make carbon capture and storage affordable, not just in Australia but around the world— Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Watt! Senator BIRMINGHAM: to make low-carbon steel and low-carbon aluminium a reality not just in Australia but around the world; and to make effective soil carbon a reality, not just in Australia but around the world. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Watt! I've called you a couple of times—sorry. Senator BIRMINGHAM: I make those points that it has to be achieved around the world. That's why we need the technology breakthroughs because then not only can Australia reduce its emissions but so too can other countries, particularly developing countries, through those tech breakthroughs. The PRESIDENT: Again, I'm going to say that, with senators wearing masks, it is hard to tell who is breaching standing orders by interjecting, so apologies if I occasionally get it wrong.