Ms GILLARD (Lalor—Prime Minister) (14:32): These matters have been pursued, as I am advised, between the National Secretary of the Labor Party and his counterpart, Mr Loughnane. I must admit I could not tell the House how much of that has been in writing and how much of that has been in periodic discussions which the national secretaries have. But let me be very clear. We certainly are committed to a leaders debate commission, and I will certainly look forward to debating the Leader of the Opposition on a number of occasions.