Senator REYNOLDS (Western Australia—Minister for Defence) (14:31): The circumstances for both of my staff will be the subject of all of the ongoing investigations, because they all relate to the same matter. What I can say is, of course: I am responsible for my own conduct, as every single person in this place is. In relation to how I dealt with both of my staff: at all times I sought advice from Ministerial and Parliamentary Services, who worked and assisted me right through this process in how to deal with both of my staff members. I don't think it is fair for either party to air in this place today the details and the circumstances of that. However, there will be, I understand, the ongoing AFP investigation and the internal investigations, which is where I believe is the right place to air those— The PRESIDENT: Order, Senator Reynolds. I have Senator Wong on a point of order. Senator Wong: On direct relevance: the question was asked whether or not the minister has had any contact with the alleged offender since his termination. I ask the minister to return to the question. The PRESIDENT: I've allowed you to restate the last part of the question, Senator Wong. I do believe that the minister is being directly relevant to an earlier part of the question. There's an opportunity to debate these matters at an appropriate time. Senator REYNOLDS: As I said, these were very complex matters. He left my office— (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Gallagher, a final supplementary question?