Senator BIRMINGHAM (South Australia—Minister for Finance, Vice-President of the Executive Council and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:52): I don't think I could have been any clearer in the previous answers about the advice to the Australian people. Rely upon the advice of Professor Kelly. Rely upon the advice of Dr Murphy. Rely upon the advice of your medical practitioners. Rely upon the advice that we promote of the health officials across this country. Rely upon the advice of medical officers across the states and territories. Rely upon the advice of the Therapeutic Goods Administration. Do you know whose advice our government are relying upon? That of all of those experts who have kept Australia safe as we have worked hand in glove with them throughout this pandemic. We are not being distracted by other comments. We are not seeking to promote debates about the merits of the vaccine. We are focused on its efficacy and delivery. The PRESIDENT: Senate Wong on a point of order. Senator Wong: My point of order is on direct relevance. I would again invite the minister to do the right thing and make a clear public statement that Mr Kelly's advice is irresponsible and dangerous and ought not be relied upon. The PRESIDENT: Senate Abetz, do you wish to rise on the point of order? Senator Abetz: I do, Mr President. I have been listening very closely to the assertions being made by the opposition and, if I understand the assertion correctly, 'You don't need no vaccine,' is in fact a double negative and therefore Mr Kelly is, in fact, promoting the vaccine, and I don't know why the opposition has got any difficulty with the matter. The PRESIDENT: You had a very good grammar teacher, Senator Abetz—congratulations! I have taken Senator Wong's point on the point of order. Senator Wong, I have allowed you to restate the question. I believe you are asking me to instruct the minister on the terms in which to answer. I believe he has been directly relevant, including just then when he was outlining a series of authorities that I believe are directly relevant to the question asked. Senator BIRMINGHAM: Unlike those opposite, I'm not going to promote debates from anybody who might undermine the vaccine strategy or its distribution. Senator Wong: That's a pathetic schoolboy debating point! The PRESIDENT: Order, Senator Wong! Senator BIRMINGHAM: We are going to promote receipt of the vaccine. We are going to promote the efficacy and safety of the vaccine, and that will be the focus of this— (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Wong, interjections are always disorderly. Opposition senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! I'll call the next question when I have the opportunity to hear it. Senator Henderson.