Senator CORMANN (Western Australia—Minister for Finance, Vice-President of the Executive Council and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:41): Are you interested in the answer? Senator Gallagher: Yes. Senator CORMANN: Thank you. Gross debt is projected to keep growing until it stabilises at about 55 per cent as a share of GDP towards the end of the— Opposition senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Can we please hear the minister, who is being directly relevant. Senator CORMANN: They are assuming, but I'm trying to get to the answer— The PRESIDENT: He's been speaking for 21 seconds. Senator CORMANN: but they're clearly not interested in the answer. They're more interested in playing politics than actually listening to the answer. As I was saying, gross debt is projected to keep growing until it stabilises at about 55 per cent as a share of GDP towards the end of the decade, which equates to about $1.7 trillion. The PRESIDENT: Senator Gallagher, a supplementary question?