Senator BIRMINGHAM (South Australia—Minister for Trade, Tourism and Investment and Deputy Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:35): I thank the senator for her question. I don't necessarily accept all of the arguments or statements or claims that have been made by the senator in her question. My understanding is that, yes, the Federal Court made final orders on Friday 21 August following the judgement that was handed down in Friends of Leadbeater's Possum v VicForests, which was handed down on 27 May this year. The government is carefully considering this judgement and its implications. I understand other proceedings, as the senator referenced, were filed by the Bob Brown Foundation in relation to these matters. Honourable senators interjecting— Senator BIRMINGHAM: I hear some of the commentary from other colleagues on this matter, and, indeed, it would be of no surprise that the Bob Brown Foundation would seek to disrupt any or all such activities that it could possibly find a means to disrupt. A constant challenge in some of these areas are those who seek to use every possible means to delay, to defer, whether or not the legal grounds are there, to ensure that the costs of proceeding with certain activities are ever greater. In the end, it's crucial that we have appropriate laws in place for the protection of the environment but also for valuable economic activities, like forestry, to be undertaken and provide the types of jobs, security and opportunities that they do in communities around the country. Our government is determined to make sure those frameworks work—work for those communities, work for the environment and work to preserve the jobs of those who rely upon them. The PRESIDENT: Senator Rice, a supplementary question?