Senator COLBECK (Tasmania—Minister for Aged Care and Senior Australians and Minister for Youth and Sport) (14:12): As I said, I don't have a detailed breakdown of every facility, the first date of the outbreak or the number of residents and staff who have tested positive. I'm happy to provide that information to the Senate at the end of question time. The PRESIDENT: A point of order, Senator Keneally? Senator Keneally: I appreciate the minister's attempting to answer the question. If he's going to take it on notice, could he confirm that the answer is 210 cases at Epping— The PRESIDENT: Senator Keneally, please—that's not a point of order at all. Senator Cormann on the point of order? Senator Cormann: That was just my point. That was absolutely not a point of order. It was a political point. If Senator Keneally has the answer at her fingertips because she of course knew the question that she was going to ask, why did she ask it if not for anything other than just playing politics with what is a very serious issue? She should be ashamed of herself. Opposition senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! I will call Senator Wong on the point of order when there's silence. Senator Wong: This is a very serious issue. This involves the deaths of too many Australians, and it is entirely appropriate that the opposition ask this minister questions which go to his handling of this crisis. That is what the opposition is doing and that is what the opposition will continue to do. The PRESIDENT: Firstly, on Senator Keneally's point of order: Senator Keneally, you know better—that wasn't a point of order. I remind senators that, when they rise on a point of order, they have to point to the standing order they believe is being breached. It's not up to me or the Chair to go to the motives of anyone seeking an answer to a question in question time. I have allowed the two leaders to make observations on that point. I urge senators to remember the standing orders when they're asking and answering questions or raising points of order. Senator COLBECK: As I said, there are 126 facilities in Victoria with an active case right now. I don't have a full list of all those 126 facilities with me, but I have committed to getting back to Senator Keneally and the chamber at the end of question time with the details that she's asked for.