Senator CASH (Western Australia—Minister for Employment, Skills, Small and Family Business) (15:01): Senator Sterle, the minister is responsible for administering maritime and shipping legislation in support of a safe, efficient and clean Australian shipping industry. This, as you know, includes compliance with international rules on maritime safety and environment, coastal trading, domestic commercial vessel safety and regulation of ships engaged in the live animal export trade. The PRESIDENT: Senator Wong, on a point of order? Senator Wong: Mr President, I am disinclined on this matter to take a point of order, but I take a point of order on direct relevance. This is about headcounts on charter vessels. It is a private senators bill. The issues that the minister is describing are not germane to the question. If she wishes to take the question on notice because the government hasn't made a decision on the private senators bill that would be a respectful thing to do. But could she please respond to the question? The PRESIDENT: Senator Cormann, on the point of order? Senator Cormann: Mr President, as you've indicated on many occasions in relation to points of order of this nature, all that is required is for the minister to be directly relevant. The Leader of the Opposition in the Senate cannot insist on how she wants the minister to answer the question. The PRESIDENT: On the point of order, it was a very specific question with respect to a bill and a particular policy measure. You've reminded the minister of the nature of it, Senator Wong. I will listen carefully. She has 36 seconds remaining to answer or to take it on notice, as appropriate. Senator CASH: As I stated in relation to the primary question, I don't have a brief on this matter. I will take any questions on notice and return to the chamber. Senator Cormann: I ask that further questions be placed on the Notice Paper.