Senator CASH (Western Australia—Minister for Employment, Skills, Small and Family Business) (15:17): Again, as the department explained in detail to Senator Siewert at Senate estimates, there are a number of reasons that a person exits the system, including that these people have found work. But, Senator Siewert, again, what the department explained to you, in detail, is the process taken with a person, in particular, in the event that they are not able to meet their mutual obligation requirements. The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Siewert on a point of order. Senator Siewert: The minister is not answering the question. Does the government know what's happened to the 104,000 people? The minister is not answering that question. I've asked it so many times. The PRESIDENT: Order! On the point of order, Senator Cormann. Senator Cormann: Mr President, Senator Cash is being directly relevant to the question. Senator Cash could not be more directly relevant to the question if she tried. The PRESIDENT: Senator Siewert, I remind you that you are making an assertion that is not in the standing orders about the nature of the answer to the question. I can't instruct the minister how to answer a question. I am only empowered to ensure she is being directly relevant, and I believe the material she is using makes it directly relevant. There is an opportunity after question time for debate of the answers that ministers provide. I call the minister to continue, Senator Cash. Senator Cash: Thank you, Mr President. Again, Senator Siewert, the department explained in detail to you at Senate estimates that once a jobseeker exits employment services following a payment cancellation the department is limited—and I think you would understand—due to privacy considerations, in its ability to collect information about the jobseeker's circumstance. However, they are able to reconnect— Senator Cormann: I ask that further questions be placed on the Notice Paper.