Senator McKIM (Tasmania) (16:54): Because there's been, I believe deliberately, a significant misinformation placed on the record about what's happened this afternoon, I just want to be clear about what has actually happened in the last half an hour in this Senate. It was the Australian Labor Party that denied formality to Senator O'Sullivan and Senator Bernardi. It was not the Australian Greens. It was the Australian Labor Party. Despite the sordid little fantasies of Senator Bernardi, suggesting that the Greens had asked or set up Labor to do that, I can categorically assure him and the Senate that that was not true in the slightest. Then we had a situation where Senator O'Sullivan denied Senator Di Natale— The DEPUTY PRESIDENT: Senator McKim, please resume your seat. Senator Bernardi: I just have a point of order that Senator McKim seems to be confused. I'm not a co-sponsor of this motion at all— The DEPUTY PRESIDENT: Senator Bernardi, that is not a point of order. It's a debating point. Senator Bernardi: No, no. It's actually about truth. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT: Please resume your seat. Senator Ian Macdonald: I have a separate point of order. Senator Collins assured the Senate that she did not deny leave. Senator McKim has just said that they didn't, and he said the Labor Party— The DEPUTY PRESIDENT: Senator Macdonald, please resume your seat. Senator Ian Macdonald: I ask you to— The DEPUTY PRESIDENT: Please resume your seat, thank you. Senator Ian Macdonald interjecting— The DEPUTY PRESIDENT: Senator Macdonald, I have asked you to resume your seat. That is a debating point. Senator McKIM: Let's be clear. Let's be clear about what happened this afternoon. Motion No. 1212, to be moved by Senator Bernardi and Senator O'Sullivan, was denied leave by the Australian Labor Party, not by the Greens. It was actually denied leave by Labor against our will. We were very happy to have that motion brought on, contrary to the sordid little fantasies of Senator Bernardi. Then what happened was that Senator O'Sullivan denied leave to Senator Di Natale for formality on his motion relating to climate change. And, yes, I then did deny formality on this motion— Honourable senators interjecting— Senator McKIM: not on the previous one, as has been erroneously put forward— The DEPUTY PRESIDENT: Senator McKim, please resume your seat. Honourable senators interjecting— The DEPUTY PRESIDENT: Senator McKim has the right to be heard in silence. I would ask senators to please be respectful and allow him to continue his remarks. Thank you. Senator McKIM: Thank you, Deputy President. It's interesting what happens when you put the facts on the record in this place—and that is in fact what I have just done. Now, in regard to this motion, we would not have supported this motion, like the Labor Party. We would not have supported this motion, because it picks out one group of people when it talks about some of the challenges that this country is facing. If you want to have a look at some of the challenges this country is facing, maybe you should have a bit of a look at the Hillsong Church at the moment. Maybe you should have a bit of a look there, at our Prime Minister and his relationship with people in the Hillsong Church. Do you see how easy this game is to play? Is it becoming clear to you now how easy it is? You see? That's the problem that we have here. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT: Senator McKim, please resume your seat. Senator Whish-Wilson: I have a point of order on interjections and disorderly conduct, Deputy President. I've heard chimpanzees chatter before, but I've never heard one chatter as long and as loud as Senator Bernardi is doing in this chamber. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT: Thank you, Senator Whish-Wilson. Once again, I will ask senators to continue the debate in respectful silence—unless, of course, you are standing and making a contribution. Senator McKIM: The point I am of course making here is that you shouldn't tarnish a large group of people because of the sins of a few members of that group. You shouldn't do it. And that's what this motion seeks to do to Muslim people. That's what it seeks to do. We are saying very clearly that of course there are Muslim people who do bad things. Of course there are Christian people who do bad things. Of course there are atheists who do bad things. There are people in most groups in our community who do bad things. You shouldn't tarnish the reputations of an entire group of people because some members of that group do bad things. We're going to stand up for reason in this debate. We are going to stand up for facts to be placed on the record. And we are going to stand up against the ongoing demonisation of Australia's entire Muslim community by people like Senator Bernardi who believe it is in their political interests to do that. That's what we are standing up for here today: for fairness, for an acknowledgement that every group of people that has a reasonable number of people in it is going to contain people who do bad things. But we shouldn't be tarnishing those entire groups of people because of the actions of a few. That applies to the Christian churches that ran protection rackets for paedophiles as much as it applies to any other group. So I urge members to let motions be debated, to put facts on the record rather than making stuff up—like Senator Macdonald has and like Senator Bernardi has—and not tarnish large groups of people because of the actions of a few. The DEPUTY PRESIDENT: The question is that the motion to suspend standing orders, as moved by Senator O'Sullivan, be agreed to. Question agreed to.