Senator FIFIELD (Victoria—Minister for Communications, Minister for the Arts and Deputy Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:48): I can't speak about that individual case, but let me just make clear to colleagues the situation on Nauru in relation to children. Firstly, no-one is detained on Nauru, and children can move about the island freely, including attending school. As of 15 August there are 120 minors in Nauru, three-quarters of which remain engaged in the US process. There are 35 minors who have already been— The PRESIDENT: Senator McKim, on a point of order. Senator McKim: The point of order is on relevance. The minister has at least partially addressed the question by saying that he's not going to respond to individual cases. I'm wondering if that constitutes a claim for public interest immunity by the minister, because he has given no reason at all to substantiate that statement. The PRESIDENT: All senators know that I cannot instruct a minister how to answer a question. As long as the minister is directly relevant to part of the question asked, he is in order. The minister is being directly relevant to part of the question you asked. Senator FIFIELD: As I was saying, 35 minors have already been resettled in the US. Two minors settled in the US have since turned 18. There are currently 10 minors and their families residing in the family centre on Nauru. The remaining 110 minors live with their families in the community. But I want to make clear that neither I nor any colleague on this side of the chamber will take an ethics lecture on regional processing from either the Australian Greens or the Australian Labor Party. It was not anyone on this side of the chamber that was responsible for the policies that saw 50,000 people arrive illegally on 800 boats. The PRESIDENT: Order, Senator Fifield! On a point of order, Senator McKim. Senator McKim: Mr President, the point of order is, again, relevance. This boy is dying, and the minister is refusing to answer reasonable questions about a boy that doctors are saying will be dead within days. The PRESIDENT: Senator McKim, please resume your seat. A government senator interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order on my right! Senator McKim, that was not a point of order. The minister needs to be directly relevant to all or part of the question you asked. I note the minister has 35 seconds to continue his answer in a way that is directly relevant to the question. Senator FIFIELD: As I was saying, it was the policies of those opposite, supported by the Australian Greens, which saw 50,000 people arrive illegally on 800 boats, saw 1,200 deaths at sea and put 8,000 children in detention. All I can assume is that Senator McKim is arguing for a return to the former policies. Senator Keneally interjecting— Senator FIFIELD: I hear Senator Keneally interjecting. Senator Keneally is not aware of what her own party's policy is in relation to this area— Senator Keneally: Is it alright for this child to die on your watch? Senator FIFIELD: which her persistent interjections confirm. She is completely unaware of her own party's policy. Government senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order, Senator Keneally! Order on my right! Senator McKim, a supplementary question.