Senator REYNOLDS (Western Australia) (16:43): I too rise to speak in denial of this motion. I find myself in thunderous agreement with Senator Marshall's comments. For the Greens to claim that this is not a complex foreign policy issue that deserves significant debate, I find almost incredulous because, at the beginning of their motion, they talk about President Trump and United State government policy. If that is not a foreign policy issue, I don't know what is. I too agree with Senator Marshall. For four years, I have been listening to this moral, pious and sanctimonious lecturing from the Greens as though they have the— Senator Steele-John: Conscience and conviction! Senator REYNOLDS: We provided you the courtesy of listening in silence. I think the Greens, on their motion, could have the courtesy to listen to those on either side, because this is a serious issue. If you say that it's only the Greens who have compassion in this world, let me tell you, Senator Steele-John, that when you have seen the impact of not only terrorism but also serious and organised crime, when you have seen what dead bodies look like— The DEPUTY PRESIDENT: Senator Reynolds, resume your seat. I remind you to direct your comments to the chair. Senator REYNOLDS: I know what compassion is and I know what compassion is to me. Compassion is not opening our borders and putting people smugglers back in business. In 2001, I saw firsthand the consequences of the immorality and the evilness of people smugglers and what they do and how they treat people. They have no respect for human life. Humans and children are not commodities. For the Greens to suggest that they have the upper hand or that they are the only ones who have any compassion or morality in this chamber is simply wrong. Compassion is keeping control of our borders, putting people smugglers out of business and not having our Defence personnel fish 1,200 bodies out of the water. Madam Deputy President Lines, if you were to show any of my colleagues in the Greens what the consequences of their policies would be, they would change their minds. Twelve hundred people drowning, including children, is not compassion. Compassion is keeping control of our borders, taking control of who we let in. By doing that, by stopping the boats and by closing down the detention centres, we now have an extra 3,000 humanitarian visa applications approved here. These are people who deserve to be here in Australia. These are the most needy, and we keep control of our borders. So, please, spare all of us in this chamber your pious sermonising, lecturing and demonisation. I hate to tell my colleagues in the Greens this, but there are bad people in this world and they exploit compassion. We saw that when the borders were reopened a few years ago. They exploited that. They sell the promise of coming here to Australia. People die; people never get here. It is wrong, it is cruel and it is evil, and we need to keep control of our borders. So, please, no more piety, no more 'we're the only ones with compassion in this world'. You are not. You might have a very different idea of what compassion looks like, but when you have seen the consequences of terrorism, as I have, and the consequences of— Senator Steele-John: There's no connection. Senator REYNOLDS: Absolutely there is. Quite often, serious and organised crime, criminal business models and terrorist business models are the same thing. Senator Whish-Wilson: Who gives them the fuel? Senator REYNOLDS: If those opposite don't understand that people will exploit other people— The DEPUTY PRESIDENT: Senator Reynolds, please resume your seat. Senators have the right to be heard in silence. Please allow Senator Reynolds to finish her contribution in silence. Senator REYNOLDS: I will take that interjection from the Greens. We have people in this chamber who don't understand that there are people—terrorists or serious and organised criminals—who don't respect human life and that, when we show compassion, they exploit it. If you do not understand that there is a link between that psychology and behaviour and their implications on all Australians, I am truly alarmed. Not only are you pious, you are also terribly ignorant of what happens in the world. Yes, we do have to balance strength with compassion. But compassion is to be provided to those who need it—for example, those on humanitarian visas. (Time expired) The DEPUTY PRESIDENT: The question is that the motion to suspend standing orders moved by Senator McKim be agreed to.