Senator McKENZIE (Victoria—Minister for Rural Health, Minister for Sport, Minister for Regional Communications and Deputy Leader of The Nationals) (14:07): I'm sure the government— Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! I'll call the minister when there's some semblance of order in the chamber. Senator Collins. Senator Abetz. Senator McKenzie. Senator McKENZIE: Thank you, Mr President. Senator Polley, thank you again for your supplementary question. Through you, Mr President: the governments of South Australia, Western Australia and Queensland as they head in to Friday's discussion need to think about the flatlining of their funding to their own public hospitals. The PRESIDENT: Senator Polley on a point of order? Senator Polley: Mr President, I know you've given the new minister some leeway, but she is not relevant to what I asked about the AMA. It's a pretty simple question to answer. Can she try and be relevant—I know maybe not honest. The PRESIDENT: Order, Senator Polley. That's not appropriate for a point of order. Senator McKenzie, I remind you of the question. Senator McKENZIE: There is one thing I do agree with the AMA on, and that's that the Labor Party's private health insurance— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Wong on a point of order? Senator Wong: We've given this minister a number of opportunities. The point of order is direct relevance. She's been asked whether she agrees with the call of the AMA for the government to lift public hospitals out of the current funding crisis, which is putting patients at risk. How is talking about opposition policy on private health insurance possibly relevant to that question? The PRESIDENT: Between that and the previous point of order, all I heard from Senator McKenzie was 'agree with the AMA'. I remind her of the question asked by Senator Polley. There was a bit of noise in the chamber; I didn't hear what came after that phrase. I remind Senator McKenzie of the question with 26 seconds left to answer. Senator McKENZIE: Thank you very much, Mr President. The AMA, pointing— Senator O'Neill interjecting— Senator Scullion: She hasn't started! Why don't you stop interjecting and listen to the answer. You might learn something. The PRESIDENT: Senator Scullion, that wasn't helpful. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order on my left and my right! Senator McKENZIE: I am looking forward to, coming out of COAG, a sustainable funding arrangement for public hospital funding in this country, where Commonwealth government, as we have committed to do, puts year-on-year record funding and to the public health system and state governments— (Time expired)