Senator CAMERON (New South Wales) (14:48): Given the minister had to resort to Senator Macdonald as the only coalition senator to speak in her defence, isn't it clear that the minister has even lost the confidence of her own coalition colleagues? Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Wong interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order, Senator Wong! I will call the minister when there's silence. Senator Wong interjecting— Senator Ian Macdonald interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Macdonald and Senator Wong, if we'd like to hear from the minister, we should cease interjecting.