Senator FIERRAVANTI-WELLS (New South Wales—Minister for International Development and the Pacific) (14:41): As with Medicare, it's those opposite— An opposition senator interjecting— Senator FIERRAVANTI-WELLS: Absolutely—your ill-informed policies on private health insurance will ensure that Australian families, especially including those in Bennelong, will have to pay higher cost for their premiums, with potential increases of 16 per cent. This is on top of the premium increases that they suffered—a rise of over 28 per cent—during the Rudd-Gillard-Rudd years. Just as you've flip-flopped and done all sorts of things in relation to the Medicare offices, you have flip-flopped on private health insurance as well. When you were in power, you cut $4 billion from private health insurance when you introduced means testing, and you were even proud of it, because— (Time expired)