Senator FIFIELD (Victoria—Manager of Government Business in the Senate, Minister for Communications, Minister for the Arts and Acting Minister for Regional Communications) (15:01): triple j has stated, 'We all agreed that the Hottest 100 shouldn't be part of a debate about the day it's on.' Yet, by their very actions, triple j and the ABC have inserted themselves as participants at the very centre of this debate. The ABC and triple j should not be putting themselves in a position where their programming decisions are seen as making loud political statements. triple j has pointed to two surveys that they conducted of their listeners, but the ABC and triple j have a broader responsibility than to just one market segment. They have a broader responsibility to the entire Australian people who render in excess of $1 billion a year to the organisation. Poll after poll demonstrates public support for Australia Day as 26 January. The ABC should respect that. The PRESIDENT: Senator Reynolds? Senator Reynolds: On a point of order. Senator Cameron interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Cameron, can I hear Senator Reynolds on a point of order? Senator Reynolds: Sorry, I was going to stand up for a point of order before the minister stood up. I want to refer you to comments Senator Carr made about Senator Paterson goose stepping. I think that the connotations of that to Senator Paterson are highly inappropriate. I ask you to ask him to withdraw it. Senator Kim Carr interjecting— Senator Reynolds: That wasn't the context he said it in. The PRESIDENT: I did not hear the comment the first time, but I think I heard it upon it being repeated. I don't think that is necessarily considered unparliamentary but, Senator Carr, you have been requested to withdraw. Senator Kim Carr: If it causes offence to the senator, I'll withdraw it. The PRESIDENT: Thank you, Senator Carr. That facilitates the operation of the chamber. Senator Paterson, on a final supplementary question.