Senator HANSON-YOUNG (South Australia) (12:34): I seek leave to make a short statement. Leave not granted. Senator Hanson-Young: You bunch of misogynistic— The PRESIDENT: Senator Hanson-Young! Senator Hanson-Young: This is about rape victims having access to safe and legal abortion. That's what you just voted against. The PRESIDENT: Senator Hanson-Young! Order! Senator Hanson-Young interjecting— Senator Ian Macdonald interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Hanson-Young and Senator Macdonald! Senator Bernardi is on his feet. Order! Senator Ian Macdonald interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Senator Macdonald, order, please. Senator Cameron on a point of order? Senator Cameron: Senator Macdonald called Senator Sarah Hanson-Young a dill and a dope. He should withdraw. The PRESIDENT: I did not hear that in the screaming across the chamber. If Senator Macdonald did do that, he should, but I did not hear it. I cannot attest to your claim, Senator Cameron. Senator Ian Macdonald: I didn't call her a dill and a dope, just a dill, but I think everyone in this chamber would agree with me. The PRESIDENT: Senator Macdonald, I understand you need to withdraw that. I think it was personally directed. Senator Ian Macdonald: Calling someone a dill is unparliamentary, whereas calling someone a misogynist, as Senator Hanson-Young did—wrongly; she doesn't understand the motion—is parliamentary? Calling someone a misogynist is parliamentary? Calling her a dill is unparliamentary? What sort of ruling is that? The PRESIDENT: All reflections are disorderly, Senator Macdonald. I've taken some advice. There are differences between reflections that are collective and individual, but I will withdraw my ruling on that. But I ask all senators, whether they are making collective or personal attributions to others, to keep the tone of debate in mind.