Senator PAYNE (New South Wales—Minister for Defence) (14:32): The only person undermining the workforce in South Australia and undermining their confidence is you, Senator Xenophon. You are the one who is talking this down, nobody else—although Dougie and his mates would have a good go if they wanted to. The PRESIDENT: Order, Minister. Two things: you must address senators by their correct title, and please address your remarks to me, not directly to Senator Xenophon. Senator PAYNE: Senator Doug Cameron, Senator Kim Carr and you, Senator Xenophon, are the few people in Australia who are actually talking this proposition down—talking down a $90 billion spend in naval shipbuilding in this country to address the gap that those opposite created by doing nothing for the entire term of their time in government. Not one ship commissioned—not one! Zero. Nada. Everybody can understand that, even the Scotsman in the room—not one. This government will have a continuous naval shipbuilding industry supported by South Australian workers. Every single South Australian shipbuilder who has breath in their body will be part of this process— The PRESIDENT: Order! A point of order, Senator Cameron? Senator Cameron: I was pointed out by the minister: 'even the Scotsman in the room'. I'm an Australian! The PRESIDENT: Order! There is no point of order, Senator Cameron.