Senator BRANDIS (Queensland—Attorney-General, Vice-President of the Executive Council and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:50): Senator Di Natale, I'm not going to run a commentary on language adopted by the President of the United States of America. What I can tell you, Senator Di Natale, as I can tell all senators, is that Australia is working with our allies and in particular working with the United States' administration in order to de-escalate this situation. The PRESIDENT: A point of order, Senator Di Natale? Senator Di Natale: On relevance, I don't expect the minister to run a commentary, but I asked a very straightforward question. It was in the context of the answer he gave to my first supplementary question. When the Minister talked about being reckless and spoke about de-escalation, I put a very direct quote to him. It was a quote from the President of the US who said that North Korea would face 'fire and fury like the world has never seen.' I asked him specifically whether he felt that language was consistent with de-escalation or whether it was reckless and I would like to minister to answer. The PRESIDENT: That's correct. You did ask those elements in your question, and the Attorney-General responded by saying he was not going to comment on that. I will draw that back to the Attorney-General's attention. Senator BRANDIS: Senator Di Natale, we would be very foolish to glean foreign policy from American presidential rhetoric. I remember a previous American President once declared that he would pay any price, bear any burden, support any friend and oppose any foe. President Trump is not the first American president who has engaged in rhetorical exuberance.