Senator CORMANN (Western Australia—Minister for Finance and Deputy Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:16): I thank Senator Whish-Wilson for that question. Obviously, the remuneration of employees of businesses across Australia is a matter for the boards of those relevant companies. In Australia, we have a very robust regulatory framework in place when it comes to the financial services sector. We have a very robust prudential regulatory arrangement. We have a very robust compliance arrangement in place. There are a range of law enforcement processes currently underway, and it would not be appropriate for the government to pre-empt the outcomes and the conclusions of those law enforcement processes. I know that Senator Whish-Wilson would like the government to jump to a conclusion and pre-empt the outcome of those processes, but we don't think that's appropriate. The PRESIDENT: Order, Minister. Senator Whish-Wilson, a point of order? Senator Whish-Wilson: I have a point of order on relevance. I wasn't asking the government to pre-empt anything to do with the court case; I just asked him if he thought it was fair that the CEO of this bank got over $10 million a year. The PRESIDENT: Yes, you did ask the minister if he believed that the CEO should get the salary he did, and the minister did clearly outline at the beginning that it's not a matter for the government, it is a matter for the CBA board. I believe the minister is relevant. I call the minister. Senator CORMANN: Senator Whish-Wilson's question and its preamble went directly to some current law enforcement investigations that are underway, and it is not appropriate for the government to pre-empt the specific processes that are currently underway or reach a conclusion or make a judgement on what should happen, depending on the outcomes. What I would say in a general way, without reflecting on any particular case, is that all banks are expected to do the right thing: to comply with the laws and to— Senator Hanson-Young: And they haven't. Senator CORMANN: And here Senator Hanson-Young is already being the investigator, the judge and the jury. She is already coming to the conclusion of a process that is still underway. But that is not what the government is proposing to do. We will let the processes that are in place run their course. The PRESIDENT: Thank you, Minister. Senator Whish-Wilson, a supplementary question?