Senator NASH (New South Wales—Deputy Leader of The Nationals, Minister for Regional Development, Minister for Local Government and Territories and Minister for Regional Communications) (14:48): As I indicated in my previous answer, the decision around penalty rates was a matter for the Fair Work Commission, the independent umpire. The senator asked what we are going to do to mitigate it. I tell you what we are not going to do: we are not going to impose a carbon tax on regional people that is going to decimate them, which we saw under the previous Labor government. What we are not going to do to regional Queensland is ban the live export cattle trade to Indonesia—that decimated regional Queensland. The PRESIDENT: Pause the clock. Senator Gallagher, a point of order? Senator Gallagher: I have a point of order on relevance. The minister was not asked what she was not going to do; she was asked what measures she was proposing to take to mitigate the impact. If she could be drawn back to that question—there are only 29 seconds to go. The PRESIDENT: Thank you, Senator Gallagher. I remind the minister of the question. Senator NASH: I did respond that it was a matter for the Fair Work Commission. What we are going to do to ensure that people in regional Queensland have a bright future is make sure we are delivering things that they need that they ask for, unlike those opposite, when it comes to health, when it comes to education and when it comes to telecommunications and things like that that are very important. We know when it comes to mobile phones, those opposite have delivered absolutely—what is the word that they call it?—zero. (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Chisholm, a final supplementary question.