Senator BRANDIS (Queensland—Attorney-General, Vice-President of the Executive Council and Leader of the Government in the Senate) (14:14): Senator Cameron, I know you take an exclusively big city centric view of this problem, but what the Deputy Prime Minister said on that occasion is absolutely true. Housing prices in regional cities and towns are lower than housing prices in the big capital cities. And in making a contribution to the public discussion about housing prices, it was absolutely appropriate. The PRESIDENT: Senator Cameron, a point of order. Senator Cameron: My point of order is on relevance. There was one question here: how many of the millions of Australians locked out of the property market is the government expecting to move to Tamworth, Armidale and Toowoomba? That is what they are telling them to do. How many are going to move there? The PRESIDENT: The minister was certainly being directly relevant to the question. He had not reached that particular figure. Whether he will or not is up to the minister. I will call the minister. Senator BRANDIS: You know, Senator Cameron, I am old enough to remember the Whitlam government, to remember when there was a Labor government that actually had a regional development policy. It created the Department of Urban and Regional Development. Like everything else the Whitlam government put its hand to of course it made a mess of it, but at least it recognised that people have choices and among those is the choice to relocate. They are not bound to do that but that is among their choices, and that is what the Deputy Prime Minister was pointing out. (Time expired) The PRESIDENT: Senator Cameron, a final supplementary question.