Senator SINODINOS (New South Wales—Cabinet Secretary) (14:47): I have just answered the question. My evidence was that I was never involved in any such process of using some subterfuge to channel donations for a state election in New South Wales. The PRESIDENT: Pause the clock. A point of order, Senator Wong? Senator Wong: My point of order is relevance. I did not ask about any such process. I asked a very specific question: did the Cabinet Secretary ever participation in or witness discussions about the use of the FEF to channel and disguise donations by prohibited donors? The PRESIDENT: Senator Brandis, on the point of order? Senator Brandis: On the point of order, the minister has referred to evidence he provided during the course of those hearings, and he has said that he stands by that evidence. It is perfectly appropriate for a person responding to a question of this kind, which has been the subject of an inquiry by a body like ICAC, to refer to evidence and to affirm it. The PRESIDENT: I do not believe there is a point of order, Senator Wong, as the Cabinet Secretary has, in my understanding, denied the allegation you have put to him. Senator Sinodinos, did you wish to add anything further to your answer? Senator SINODINOS: No.