Senator DASTYARI (New South Wales) (14:46): Mr President, I ask a supplementary question. Considering the minister has already questioned the literacy and comprehension of the National Catholic Education Commission, does the minister agree with the coalition New South Wales education minister, Mr Piccoli, who says on Labor's needs-based school funding—and I quote: It's being spent on things we know work: quality teaching, school counsellors, speech therapists. We are giving targeted support to children in kindergarten at risk of falling behind.