Senator BIRMINGHAM (South Australia—Minister for Education and Training) (14:50): The types of changes we have applied have been necessary because we found an unholy mess left by those opposite when they structured the VET FEE-HELP program. We found that had they put in place a program that was too easy for providers to sign people up without actually looking— Senator Wong: What did you do for two years, Simon? You were minister for two years. Senator BIRMINGHAM: Senator Wong wants to say, 'What did you do?' Well, Senator Wong, you do not seem to want to take any responsibility that, as the finance minister of the previous government, you put in place an arrangement that has seen billions of dollars going out the door without getting good completion rates and without getting real training. That is why we have been implementing these reforms, Mr President. That is exactly the reason. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order, Minister. There is a point of order. Pause the clock. Senator Heffernan, on a point of order. Senator Heffernan: I rise on a point of order, Mr President. With all of this lunatic yelling, everyone has been scared out of the chamber. The gallery has been cleaned out. The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order, Senator Heffernan. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senators on both sides! Minister. Senator BIRMINGHAM: This government took quick action, because new standards applied from 1 January this year. Further conditions were applied from 1 April this year to ensure inducements were banned. Further actions are being put in place from July this year and again from January next year, all of which have been developed to fix up a mess created by those opposite, to ensure we deal with that legacy problem and to make sure training in future is for students who want genuine training outcomes. (Time expired)