Senator FIFIELD (Victoria—Manager of Government Business in the Senate, Minister for Communications, Minister for the Arts and Minister Assisting the Prime Minister for Digital Government) (14:13): I am sure that, like every colleague on this side of the chamber, we are big Nick Cave fans—absolutely! In fact, only the other day Michael Cathcart, on his program on ABC Radio National, played an extract of a song to me and asked me to guess who it was, and I said, 'That's Nick Cave.' He said, 'No, it's not.' I said, 'Really?' and it was Nick Cave. Anyway— Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator FIFIELD: Mr President, if you don't like Nick Cave, you get into trouble; if you do like Nick— The PRESIDENT: Order, Minister! Pause the clock. Senator Moore: Mr President, I rise on a point of order: direct relevance to the question. Despite the minister's clear knowledge of Nick Cave—I know Nick Cave's name was mentioned in the question—the question was much longer than that. If you could draw the attention of the minister to the question. The PRESIDENT: Senator Moore, I do agree with you. I will draw the minister's attention to the question. Senator FIFIELD: Thank you, Mr President. No doubt what Senator Collins was alluding to in her question was the National Program for Excellence in the Arts, which was announced in the previous budget. What my colleagues on this side would be aware of is that it was always the intention that there would be a period of consultation about the design of that program and about the guidelines. That consultation has been undertaken by the Ministry for the Arts. There have been something in the order of about 326 submissions received. The purpose of consultation is to benefit from the input and from the views of those in the sector. I will be taking a look at that input as we look to what the final shape of that program will be. Can I acknowledge the steadfast and longstanding commitment of the former minister for the arts in this area. I know that he will continue to have a very close interest and involvement in the arts and I look forward to talking to him at great length on an ongoing basis about the arts in Australia.