Senator CONROY (Victoria—Deputy Leader of the Opposition in the Senate) (14:09): My question is to the Attorney-General, Senator Brandis. I refer to the Attorney-General's confirmation that he spoke with Commissioner Heydon about his planned address to the Liberal Party fundraiser, the Sir Garfield Barwick lecture. On how many occasions has the Attorney-General picked up the phone to Commissioner Heydon since the royal commission was established? And would next time you do pick up the phone to the commissioner, will you ask him why he did not ask a single question on the brief of evidence provided to him of the $1.4 million that Kathy Jackson stole from HSU members? Opposition senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! On my left. Senator Conroy interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! Senator Conroy, you have asked your question. I am just debating as to whether the second part of that question is in order. I will allow it to stand. The Attorney-General can treat the second part of the question as he deems fit. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! On both sides.