Senator ABETZ (Tasmania—Leader of the Government in the Senate, Minister Assisting the Prime Minister for the Public Service and Minister for Employment) (14:18): What the honourable senator is seeking to do by the assertion that there was a leak to a tabloid newspaper is something that I will not accept, of course. Senator Ludlam: They can predict the future can they? Senator ABETZ: The Leader of the Greens interjects and asks, 'They can predict the future, can they?' We have often seen leaks in the newspapers that make for a great headline but an even better fish and chip wrapper the next day. I would invite the honourable senator to see exactly what develops in this very sensitive space. We know that in relation to Syria there are certain issues that require sensitivity. In all this discussion, what is the aim of the world community? It is to destroy the death cult—something which, unfortunately, Greens senator after Greens senator has opposed by some very bizarre questions in this place. Again, I would like to place on record that the Daesh death cult, ISIS, is a manifestation of a very evil body of men, and I can say men in this case— Senator Ludlam: Mr President, I raise a point of order on relevance. Through you, Mr President, Senator Abetz, you can avoid the leak question if you like. I asked a fairly black and white question to relevance as to whether the deployment would be legal under international law and what evidence Senator Abetz has to back that case. The PRESIDENT: Thank you Senator Ludlam. Senator Abetz has 31 seconds left. He has been answering the first part of your question, and I will remind Senator Abetz of the question. Senator Abetz: In relation to the hypothetical, the only purpose that we would be doing anything would be to help destroy this evil cult. Government senators interjecting— Senator ABETZ: Regrettably, I only hear 'here, here!' from the government side. I would have thought the Greens might have been able to agree to that for once. In relation to legal advice, the government rarely makes that available, as is well known.