Senator BRANDIS (Queensland—Deputy Leader of the Government in the Senate, Vice-President of the Executive Council, Minister for Arts and Attorney-General) (14:24): I think, Senator Waters, for you to reflect upon the religious beliefs of any member of this parliament, whether they be members of the government or they occupy any other office in this parliament, is disgusting. Honourable senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order! There will be quiet on both sides—on both sides! Order! Senator Waters: Mr President, I raise a point of order, if I may, on relevance. I did not seek to refer to the Prime Minister's religious beliefs in a disparaging manner; I was merely asserting the facts and asking whether or not they will respond to Pope Francis's encyclical. I would like an answer to that question, please. The PRESIDENT: Senator Waters, under Odgers it clearly states that it has been held that it is not in order to refer to a senator's religion in debate—full stop. There is not a qualification to that, so you are not to refer to that. Now, Senator Waters, do you have a supplementary question? Senator Waters: Well, just further on that point of order, President: I am happy to withdraw that part of the question. I did not realise it would be so controversial. What I am interested in is a response to the substantive part of the question, which is whether or not this government will now desist in its attacks on a clean energy target, on the basis of Pope Francis's encyclical. The PRESIDENT: Senator Waters, the primary question has been answered by the minister. You are now at a point where you can ask a supplementary question. Do you have a supplementary question, Senator Waters? Senator Waters: I do, President, but—I do apologise—I really do not think there was a substantive answer from Senator Brandis. Government senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order on my right! Senator Waters: There was confected outrage and a refusal to engage on the substance. I really would like an answer, if Senator Brandis can share his— Government senators interjecting— The PRESIDENT: Order on my right! Senator Waters, Senator Brandis was invited to answer what part of the question he wished to answer, and, if you bear in mind that your question was out of order in the first instance, I think I was generous in allowing him to answer what part he wished to. You are now at the stage where you can ask a supplementary question, and I will invite the minister to answer that question.