Senator CASH (Western Australia—Assistant Minister for Immigration and Border Protection and Minister Assisting the Prime Minister for Women) (14:16): Yes, I can. Under this government, in the 2014 budget, we announced savings of $283.3 million over four years. How were those savings achieved? Again, by implementing our strong and consistent border protection policies. Compare that to the record of those on the other side. Under Labor and the Greens, the budget for managing illegal boat arrivals blew out by just under $12 billion. The PRESIDENT: Pause the clock. Senator Whish-Wilson: I have a point of order, Mr President. I would like to seek direction from you. Senator Cash continues to use the word 'illegal' when it is not illegal to seek asylum. The PRESIDENT: That is no point of order, Senator Whish-Wilson; that is a debating point. Senator CASH: Clearly, Senator Whish-Wilson does not like the truth, and the truth of the matter is that the policies that Senator Whish-Wilson and the Australian Greens supported and continue— The PRESIDENT: Pause the clock. Senator Di Natale: Mr President, I rise on a point of order. At the start of today's proceedings, you made a statement about the use of language in this parliament. We have just heard the minister state that Senator Whish-Wilson 'does not like the truth' and she has gone on to use what is, in point in law, incorrect. The term 'illegal' has no validity. The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order at all, Senator Di Natale. The context in which Senator Cash has used her terminology does not infringe the standing orders. In relation to your second point, that is a debating point about terminology. Senator CASH: I have to say, in relation to cost blow-outs, when it comes to the Greens there is one tree they like to cut down, and that is the money tree—$11.6 billion in budget blow-outs because the money tree that the Greens were using ran out of money. (Time expired)