Senator ABETZ (Tasmania—Leader of the Government in the Senate, Minister Assisting the Prime Minister for the Public Service and Minister for Employment) (14:18): In the previous answer I just gave, I may have used the word 'built' rather than 'commissioned' and, if that is the case, I would seek to substitute those words: Labor did not commission a naval vessel to be built in Australia in the six years whilst they were in government. In relation to whether or not somebody engaged in an expletive-laden phone conversation, I have no idea about that. But all that I can say, with great and absolute confidence, is that if there were such a conversation, it would never match the sorts of conversations that took place between Senator Conroy and Mr Rudd.