Senator JOHNSTON (Western Australia—Minister for Defence) (14:02): You are verballing me, as you are want to do when you do not get the answer that you want. I said to you that the government will conduct its acquisition of what is our biggest and most complex Defence acquisition. In the ordinary course of events, the Auditor-General will be looking over the government's shoulder. Everything will be above board, according to Hoyle, and we will get the job done— Senator Conroy: You have done a deal. You prepared the press releases. The PRESIDENT: Order on my left. Senator JOHNSTON: after six years of inaction and after six years of prevarication. It has gone from four options to two options that were fantasy. What a fraud was perpetrated on the Australian people: 'We are going to have 12 submarines.' Guess what? We have nothing. We actually delivering the program starting from scratch, because you did nothing.