The PRESIDENT (15:35): The question is that the amendment moved by Senator Abetz be agreed to. The PRESIDENT: Senator Ronaldson. Senator Wong: Excuse me, Mr President— The PRESIDENT: Senator Ronaldson, is this a point of order? Senator Ronaldson: No, it's not, Mr President. The PRESIDENT: The call will go on seniority. Senator Ronaldson: I'm on my feet and you called me. I move an amendment— The PRESIDENT: Senator Ronaldson, you both rose to your feet at the same time. I thought you may have been raising a point of order. You are not; you clarified that. The call is going to Senator Wong. Senator Ronaldson: Mr President, on a point of order: I was clearly on my feet first. That is why you called me, Mr President. You saw me rise to my feet and you called me. What the Leader of the Opposition did, quite frankly, is an issue for her. I rose to my feet, you called me and I started to move the motion. The PRESIDENT: There is no point of order, Senator Ronaldson, and the reason is that you both rose to your feet at the same time. I know that your experience in this chamber is that the senior person who would have got the call on that occasion is Senator Wong. That has been a matter of convention and practice for a long time. Senator Ronaldson, I thought—in deference to you—that you were raising a point of order. I did not realise you wanted to do anything other than that. So the call is going to Senator Wong. Senator Cormann: Mr President, on a point of order: I am just seeking guidance here. I believe that Senator Wong participated in the debate and as such is not able— The PRESIDENT: That is a valid point of clarification, Senator Cormann, but that is not the case. I am giving the call to Senator Wong.